> "daveparks" <daveparks...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > On Feb 6, 12:09 am, "Jamie Brinkoeter" <jams...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> "topcat" <top...@aboy.com> wrote in message
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> >> > My new mantra is if the Republicans really want a liberal (McCain),
> >> > then
> >> > let's give them a real liberal (Obama or Clinton). Suffering through a
> >> > O
> >> > or C Presidency may be the only way to get the Republican party to
> >> > return
> >> > to it's conservative roots.
>
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> >> The *most* troublesome aspect of your position, for me, is not that
> >> you're
> >> willing to "punish" Republicans/classical conservatives/moderates who
> >> don't
> >> support 100% of the far right position for somewhere between 4-16 years,
> >> but
> >> that you're willing to live with Clinton's/Obama's judicial appointments
> >> that will last a lifetime. That's just scary.
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> > You have a point, Jamie - but I agree with TC, we get what we deserve.
>
> > IMO this whole, "I'm the electable one!" is just BS - that any
> > candidate would even run on that position is insulting, and any voting
> > block that would vote on that position is equally misguided.
>
> > McCain is as much a career politician as Hillary - he's held office
> > now for 20 some odd years, and in that time what legislation has he
> > introduced that didn't run counter to the ideas of his base or IMO
> > pander to the left? He's as "conservative" as the endorsements by the
> > NY Times and Schwarzenegger.
>
> > It's not about McCain vs Clinton vs Obama, it's about wanting to put
> > some conservative values back in the country; while they may share
> > different tents, all three of them are IMO in the same Camp Liberal.
>
> Exactly. And did you see how fast Arnold has sold out to the left? I can see
> McCain doing the same thing. A few years ago I was hoping the laws would be
> changed so Arnold could run for Pres., now I wouldn't vote for him if he
> were the last person on earth.
>
> TC
